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Chthon · Jan 28, 2008, 06:12 PM // 18:12

Credit for this idea goes to Erk in this thread.

Create a new chat filter, like the bad language filter only it cannot be disabled. Add to the filter list the urls for known gold-selling websites (along with the standard typographical X p e r m u t a t i o n s 5 6 X). The result is that any attempt at spam comes out something like: "Visit *****.com to buy cheap GW gold!!!" No profit in spamming that message.

To get around such a filter, gold-sellers would have to constantly register new domain names to redirect to their main site, which anet would then have to add to the filter list. However, that's a race a-net would eventually win because adding a url to the filter would be far cheaper than registering a new domain name and hosting a new page.

Fril Estelin · Jan 28, 2008, 06:15 PM // 18:15

Not much to say apart from /signed

Let's make this thread and idea a winner!

NamelessBeauty · Jan 28, 2008, 06:22 PM // 18:22

lol

/sign

Though I have to say this. Anet does not want those gold sellers vanish lol. They want them get banned more and more so they get more and more money lol.

Songbringer · Jan 28, 2008, 06:22 PM // 18:22

/signed

Now think of a way to get rid of the 500 scrub guilds recruiting in la.

Maybe a guild recruit chat for all guild messages to go. But that wouldn't work would it. People still use local to sell and people would still use local to spam there crappy guild messages.

ax mastery · Jan 28, 2008, 06:23 PM // 18:23

This would require anet to do some extra work, therefore it won't happen.

Songbringer · Jan 28, 2008, 06:23 PM // 18:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by NamelessBeauty

lol

/sign

Though I have to say this. Anet does not want those gold sellers vanish lol. They want them get banned more and more so they get more and more money lol.

if they truely wanted them banned they would have a gm go to gtob id1 every day and ban them all

Hotaru_Reiki · Jan 28, 2008, 06:53 PM // 18:53

/sign

definitley. It needs to stop. It's a game, it's fun, stop trying to make money from it and get a real job, lol.

Operative 14 · Jan 28, 2008, 07:09 PM // 19:09

/Signed - Great idea.

Though it might be hard to develop the list at first.

N1ghtstalker · Jan 28, 2008, 07:16 PM // 19:16

/signed
at operative
with all the spammers for the gold anet has chatlogs of what happens
that's how you can get busted for swearing and stuff
they take out the sites from the chatlogs and then they probably would have a good list of sites

kel77 · Jan 28, 2008, 07:25 PM // 19:25

/signed
Tired of all the crap in Temple of Bal

HawkofStorms · Jan 28, 2008, 07:31 PM // 19:31

/signed

Interesting idea.

credit · Jan 28, 2008, 07:39 PM // 19:39

But I love the bots in gtob who spam you every 3 seconds. They'll find ways to bypass it.

Mangione · Jan 28, 2008, 08:21 PM // 20:21

/signed

If they find the list too hard to do, they can simply put a spamfilter that turns all www.something.com written in allchat into *********.

If people need to know a website url they can ask other people by using pms.

Cale Roughstar · Jan 28, 2008, 08:28 PM // 20:28

/signed

yay for ideas that origionated in Runescape!

Meggle · Jan 28, 2008, 08:28 PM // 20:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by NamelessBeauty

lol

/sign

Though I have to say this. Anet does not want those gold sellers vanish lol. They want them get banned more and more so they get more and more money lol.

Not true, Gaile actually posted about how the manpower and research to ban accounts costs them more money than the gold sellers buying new games. e.e

/signed

Operative 14 · Jan 28, 2008, 08:34 PM // 20:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by N1ghtstalker

/signed
at operative
with all the spammers for the gold anet has chatlogs of what happens
that's how you can get busted for swearing and stuff
they take out the sites from the chatlogs and then they probably would have a good list of sites

Yeah, but still going through those chat logs and documenting each and every website along with all the other superfluous chatter would be a pretty major job. I'm not saying it wouldn't be worthwhile to do it, just that initially it would be a pretty good amount of work.

TheRaven · Jan 28, 2008, 09:07 PM // 21:07

/notsigned.

Sorry, but it won't work. I've seen it tried on other sites and it simply doesn't work.

You have a spammer spamming "Cheap gold!!! Goto www.cheapgoldsite.com!!!!"

So, the powers that be filter www.cheapgoldsite.com.

The spammers return with "Cheap gold!!! Goto vvvvvv.cheapgoldsite.com"

Filter now filters cheapgoldsite.com.

Spammer: "Cheap gold!! Visit w w w . c h e a p g o l d s i t e . c o m!!!!"

Filter now becomes smart enough to take out spaces and filter the result.

Spammer: "Cheap gold!!!! Visit w w w.c H e @ P G 0 l D $ I + e. COM!!!!"

It's a never ending cycle. No matter what you filter, the spammer can change the message enough to bypass it.

It happens now. The "F" word is filtered in GW if you have your chat filter on. So does that mean you never see that particular profanity in local chat from the resident 12 year olds? Nope! They use it everyday with creative spelling.

Fril Estelin · Jan 28, 2008, 09:31 PM // 21:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRaven

Spammer: "Cheap gold!!!! Visit w w w.c H e @ P G 0 l D $ I + e. COM!!!!"

It's a never ending cycle.

You're right, but at the point highlighted above, the spammers stop being efficient because people need to decode. And don't compare it to the F word, because it's totally different: one is a word used for people to express emotions(?) while the other is a link. If you make difficult to use the first one, people still express emotions (or whatever else), while making difficult the display of spamsites urls harms their business.

Why would you want to /notsign on a feature that would at best rid the game of some spammers and at worst change nothing? I mean, if you think in terms of average, it has to be better than the current situation, isn't it?

I don't think it's technically difficult, you can even have a simple url parser that can efficiently do that without much overhead.

There's not so much RMT in GW, so let's try to get a consensus here so that there's even more!

MithranArkanere · Jan 28, 2008, 10:08 PM // 22:08

I think it would be eaier wise use of the /report comand an bigger ignore list.
And even better if there were an 'alarm' when someone gets ignored by a lot of people.

But a new filter that includes web-pages in the Local channel would be good.
The only reason to tell pages is for a forum of a guild, or this forum, and that can be done by team and, guild, alliance, etc.

Onarik Amrak · Jan 28, 2008, 10:12 PM // 22:12

There are ways to get around filters. A bigger ignore list may be more useful.